tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861175623849452396.post1337854184800342255..comments2024-02-28T04:16:37.844-05:00Comments on History Undressed: The Reality of Pirates in 1717 – Not Quite Pirates of the Caribbean by Claire AshgroveEliza Knighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17209596240914705136noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861175623849452396.post-9731486792597005862012-08-14T16:52:19.168-04:002012-08-14T16:52:19.168-04:00Some good points from Alexandriweb but, in all fai...Some good points from Alexandriweb but, in all fairness, what we know now as "pirate speech" came from a very specific source: the character actor Wallace Beery in his portrayal of Long John Silver in the 1934 movie version of "Treasure Island." <br /><br />Though many "Golden Age" pirates were from Britain - and Devon in particular - just as many came from all over the globe. Paulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11730716060906158244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861175623849452396.post-20020451616637554972012-08-14T15:19:46.500-04:002012-08-14T15:19:46.500-04:00I was almost positive pirates wern't actually ...I was almost positive pirates wern't actually like Capain Hook<br />;-) But, ya know, if they were, say, to look like Johnny Depp, I think it would make being catured a little bit easier *winkwink*<br />In all seriousness, THANK YOU for sharing, Claire! I really enjoyed reading your post :-)<br /><br />justforswag(AT)yahoo(DOT)comChelsea B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861175623849452396.post-22491888552361217252012-08-14T13:57:32.243-04:002012-08-14T13:57:32.243-04:00Thank you for sharing your insight so succinctly, ...Thank you for sharing your insight so succinctly, Alexandriaweb. Glad you were able to help substantiate the truth that the Hollywood accent isn't real.Claire Ashgrovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07314691430076316516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6861175623849452396.post-40269600185529564552012-08-14T07:55:27.598-04:002012-08-14T07:55:27.598-04:00The cockney accent is not (and has never been) &qu...The cockney accent is not (and has never been) "The poor, uneducated British man’s speech."<br />It is a working class, regional accent from a very small part of England, so yes if the pirate in question originally came from London then they would have spoken a variation of cockney, but if they came from another part of Britian then they would not.<br />What we know as "Pirate speech" is an exaggerated form of Yorkshire accent, and given that there were a lot of major ports in and around Yorkshire at the time then it is also very likely that some pirates spoke with a Yorkshire accent (but it would have been a lot more toned down than what we hear in movies), further north and you would hear the Geordie dialect of North Eastern England and North of that the Scottish accents (starting with Borders that isn't that much different to Geordie), before becoming Lowland (the soft accents of the people around Edinburgh) and then Highland (the harsher tones of Glasgow).<br />There are a lot of accents in Britain, and there have been for hundreds of years.Alexandriawebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778264974977380013noreply@blogger.com